General Challenge Discussions Topic Part II




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As for Ruby,...doing about 200 dmg will give veeeery long battle, and Ruby's Claw attack very strong, even with Zeidrich and four Hero Drinks. And with Zeidrich he will burn you....


If someone will beat them with SCIENM rules I will try to beat them too but now I think it's impossible :P

Just try ^^


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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 1:20:02 PM | Message Detail

Browsing some Japanese Yarikomi-sites, I have found freaking nice idea for challenge : "Tifa lvl 7 vs All Bosses Challenge". In these battles Tifa must not use ES-Materia or Items. After win, we must reset and beat boss in any way we want. We have both weapons beaten by Tifa lvl7, but I never fought Demons Gate using her. Or for example Safer-Sephiroth (without KotR).

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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 1:21:29 PM | Message Detail

Lets call this : "Lowest Level Character Boss Challenge"

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From: lolo26 | Posted: 10/29/2005 2:33:16 PM | Message Detail

^^ Wow now that has to be one of the hardest challenge I ever heard of....doubt it's possible though.... I think even if we allow everything it would still be very hard, but no Items and no E.Skill??? That's a joke right? >_>


Are you at least allowed to abuse the Limit Breaks? I mean if we have the 6 Limit Breaks early on I can see how we could manage through a lot of those battles, but against Bosses like Demon's Gate I have yet to come up with something like a strategy >_<,

At least all the Bosses that can be poisoned should not be too hard.

Man thinking about it it's probably pretty close to impossible to have her survive against DG, but to somehow deal 10000 damage in the meantime.... >_>

Well it sounds fun to say the least :P

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"Trying is the first step towards failure." - Homer

From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 2:49:19 PM | Message Detail

Just dont use Items and ES at Tifa battles. Out of Tifa battles you can do everything... like leveling materia etc.

For the Demons Gate they suggest use of Counterattack materia. In my LLP I've used same strategy, but instead Tifa lvl7 I've used Aerith lvl 20, and it was hard battle.


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From: lolo26 | Posted: 10/29/2005 4:26:13 PM | Message Detail

^^ Yeah that's what I understood but man this is gonna be really hard, I decided not to learn very much today and wanted to try the challenge out a little bit and guess what....I got stuck on AirBuster, you know that pathetic Robot thingy? No matter how far back I think I never lost to him once in any of the countless challenges I did...but in this one I lost to freaking AirBuster >_<.


Well a level 4 Tifa solo without any Items and only with her level 1-1 Limit has no chance to beat him....I had to get her 1-2 Limit and even then it wasn't exactly easy...


You can only heal 5 times and you deal ~100 damage with both Limit Breaks, you have to enter the battle with a full Limit to at least make sure the first Limit does 5 times the usual damage (~250) and then it's possible but if he ever gets a critical you're probably screwed and of course you have to get Yeah everytime (pretty easy for me but still....).

I finished him off with full HP and 3 MP left so there is a little margin for error left.

Now let's see how I do against the next Bosses :)


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"Trying is the first step towards failure." - Homer

From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 4:45:05 PM | Message Detail

So you decided to test it out ^^

Wish you luck at Aps and Reno<- (If it's possible)...


- I think you will need high level magic to beat him (Fire2 or Fire3)

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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 4:53:22 PM | Message Detail

Btw, did you fought Guardian Scorpion with Cloud and Barret, or just with Barret ? (Your lowest level character)

:P With using of Items of course.


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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 5:03:54 PM | Message Detail

Haha... btw, lolo26 you're great player -)

You know, I have translated incorrectly that rule. It was not "No Items" but "No Attack Items"

Sorry ^^;

I have noticed "AITEMU" (Item) and "Ban", overlocking "Attack" between them..

But anyway you managed to kill him without Items. Let's say it was "Your own rule" ^^

>_>

<_<

*runs*

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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/29/2005 5:17:06 PM | Message Detail

Fourth post in row... but is anybody care ??

- For Aps, LLC (Lowest Level Character) will be Aerith.

- For Reno (Tifa)

- Mighty Grunt (Tifa)

- Sample H052 (Tifa)

- Hundred Gunner&Heli Gunner(Aerith)

So if you will level materia, you need Cloud to get all EXP.

- Rufus (Cloud)

- Motor Ball (Tifa)

- Dyne (Barret)

It's need more planning to make LLC battles with some bosses possible.


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From: lolo26 | Posted: 10/29/2005 5:24:19 PM | Message Detail

^^Ah well that sure makes it a lto easier...but nevermind I'll continue with the NI rule until I'm stuck, then I'll switch to No Attack Items :).


Aps is easy thanks to his AI: If you cast a Spell on him he'll use his Tsunami twice, that made the battle quite easy: 4 Fires and 2 Cures was all that was needed (so 26 MP).


Also I correct myself you can heal 6 times against AirBuster (Tifa has 33 MP).

Now let's see how I do against Reno, the problem being Tifa hasn't got enough MP to cast a level 3 spell....that makes it pretty hard and I don't have enough Phoenix Downs to allow her to get her second Limit (but probably you need the third one anyway, and even then I'm not sure it kills him...).


Also can it be that Barret is also healed before Reno?? I

n that case I have to kill him in battle right?

That would make things a lot easier as I simply would have to let him take the first Pyramid and then hope I'm fast enough to kill him before the second...hem maybe not so easy either but a lot easier than killing him before he even acts >_>

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From: lolo26 | Posted: 10/29/2005 5:34:34 PM | Message Detail

Wait you mean the goal is to keep the other levels down too?? I mean I could kill Aps with Aeris (she is indeed level 2) but against Hundred/Heli Gunner I don't really want to make sure she is the lowest possible....same for Barret...as for Cloud, well someone has to take some EXP right so getting him the lowest possible for Rufus is pretty much impossible....


I could try to make sure Aeris levels stays low for Heli/Hundred Gunner but I'm not really willing to do more, Cloud and Barret will face Rufus/Dyne at high levels....

One thing that comes to mind is that I could cheat to get the levels at the lowest they could be at that point in the game, or just play through again and show that those battles are also possible at the lowest level :).

That way we could still say you can beat any Boss at the lowest possible level solo and not care about the levels (except for Tifa of course...)


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"Trying is the first step towards failure." - Homer

From: Ragnarok500 | Posted: 10/29/2005 10:17:05 PM | Message Detail

Red Dragon


Cloud: L34, Materia- ESM#1, Steal (L1)

Aeris: L28, Materia- Sense (L1)

Cait Sith: L33, Materia- ESM#2, Sense (L1), Manipulate (L1)


Strategy: Aqualung (~850) pretty much the whole way, bar moments when my HP was really low and I'd pull out a ???? followed by White Wind. W/o Big Guard, the tail attack hit for ~200, bite for 400+, and Red Dragon Breath for ~550. Easy enough. *moves on to DG*


Demons Gate


Cloud: L34, Materia- ESM#1, Steal (L1)

Aeris: L29, Materia- Sense (L1)

Cait Sith: L34, Materia- ESM#2, Sense (L1), Manipulate (L1)


Strategy: This... actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. A little preparation made this battle easy. >_> First off, Big Guard's gotta be up all the time, to reduce Cave In's damage to ~150, Demon Rush's to ~250, and his physical's to ~200 (because of the low HP I'd be keeping Cait Sith at). After the Big Guard, Cloud Lasers Cait Sith, who then starts ????ing DG. To avoid the tediousness of White Wind followed by another Laser, Cloud and Aeris spent most of the remainder of the battle Potioning/Hi-Potioning everyone accordingly (bar those moments when Cloud had to reinstate Big Guard) while Cait Sith hammered away at 1100+ per hit to quickly down DG.


*snatches ESM#3 in the Forgotten Capital* Before facing Jenova LIFE, time to get this third materia all the skills I can.


New Enemy Skills:


ESM#3- Matra Magic (Custom Sweeper), L4 Suicide (Mu), Beta (Midgar Zolom), White Wind (Zemzelett), Flame Thrower (Ark Dragon), ???? (Jersey), Frog Song (Touch Me), Aqualung (Harpy), Big Guard (Beachplug), Death Force (Adamantaimai), Magic Hammer (Razor Weed), Death Sentence (Boundfat).


Basically, everything ESM#1 and ESM#2 have except Trine and Laser, the former of which I'm getting soon anyway.


Jenova LIFE


Cloud: L37, Materia- ESM#3, Manipulate (L1)

Vincent: L36, Materia- ESM#1, Sense (L1)

Cait Sith: L37, Materia- ESM#2, Sense (L1), Steal (L1)


Strategy: Holy ****! O_o Jenova opened with Aqualung, pounding me into the ground for ~1500! Obviously, I promptly Big Guarded (reducing Aqualung to a tame(?) ~750 damage; likewise, Blue Flame and Blue Light were reduced to ~200 from their ~400). Then my highest HP character cast White Wind while the others took a couple Magic Hammer potshots until Jenova cast Reflect. I followed up with a couple Betas (~800) until my HP reached the ideal zone for ????. More Aqualung! X_x Fortunately, his HP was low enough so that I could blitz and kill via ???? before he his turn came up again.


Onto Disc 2!

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From: Paltheos | Posted: 10/30/2005 3:46:57 AM | Message Detail

New Enemy Skills:


ESM#1: Magic Breath (Stilva)

ESM#2: Magic Breath (Stilva)

ESM#3: Magic Breath (Stilva), Trine (Stilva)


Malboros = teh evil >_>


Schizo


Cloud: L43, Materia- ESM#3, Manipulate (L1)

Vincent: L42, Materia- ESM#1, Sense (L1)

Cait Sith: L42, Materia- ESM#2, Sense (L1), Steal (L1)


Strategy: Of course, Big Guard pronto. After that, I Magic Hammered away all their MP, leaving them helpless. Then I would ???? to near-death, restore my Barrier/M-Barrier, kill one off, and repeat with the other. Easy enough, ne? ;P


Jenova DEATH


Cloud: L44, Materia- ESM#1, Sense (L1)

Vincent: L43, Materia- ESM#2, Sense (L1), Steal (L1), Manipulate (L1)

Tifa: L36, Materia- ESM#3


Strategy: Same strategy as against Schizo, bar having to worry about a final attack and protecting myself. So... easier.


New Enemy Skills:


ESM#1: Goblin Punch (Goblin)

ESM#2: Goblin Punch (Goblin)

ESM#3: Goblin Punch (Goblin)

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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/30/2005 6:45:03 AM | Message Detail

- lolo26


^^Ah well that sure makes it a lto easier...but nevermind I'll continue with the NI rule until I'm stuck, then I'll switch to No Attack Items :).


Hehe, it's up to you. You can fight battles with any restriction you want -) First time try to beat without items, second using only magic, third only summon etc...


Now let's see how I do against Reno, the problem being Tifa hasn't got enough MP to cast a level 3 spell....


Switch her for Cloud or Barret ?


One thing that comes to mind is that I could cheat to get the levels at the lowest they could be at that point in the game, or just play through again and show that those battles are also possible at the lowest level :).


Yeah, this challenge have number of ways. You can have your earliest save and decide each way. FAQ for this challenge would be nice -)


- Paltheos


Malboros = teh evil >_>


You can try to learn Bad Breath^^ All you need is to evade it (depend on your Luck-stat) Even AireTam Storm evadeable.

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From: TsukiNoNeko | Posted: 10/30/2005 7:58:30 AM | Message Detail

Here list battles and LLC from that site :


MPx2 ------------------------------- Cloud L6

Guard Scorpion ------------------ Barret L6

Air Buster ------------------------- Tifa L4

Aps --------------------------------- Aerith L2

Reno ------------------------------- Cloud L7 (C-route)

Mighty Grunt x 3 ----------------- Tifa L7

Sample H052 --------------------- Tifa L7

Rufus ------------------------------- Cloud L7 (C-route)

100 Gunner & Heli Gunner ----- Aerith L6 (A-route)

Motor Ball ------------------------- Tifa L5

Bottomswell ---------------------- Tifa L5

Jenova-Birth ---------------------- Tifa L5

Dyne ------------------------------- Barret L6 (B-route)

Stinger ---------------------------- Tifa L7

Gi Nattack ------------------------ Tifa L7

Materia Keeper ----------------- Tifa L7

Palmer ---------------------------- Tifa L7

Red Dragon ---------------------- Tifa L7

Demons Gate -------------------- Tifa L7

Jenova-Life ----------------------- Tifa L7(Is "No Elemental Absorb(NEA)" Possible ?

Icicle ------------------------------- Tifa L7 (4 battles in row ?)

Schizo ----------------------------- Tifa L7 (NEA ?)

Jenova-Death -------------------- Tifa L7

Attack Squad --------------------- Barret L8 (B-route)

Ultima Weapon ------------------ Barret L8 (B-route)

Underwater Reactor Battles -- Tifa L7 (Some battles goes in row)

Rocket Town Battles ------------ Tifa L7 (Like above)

Diamond Weapon --------------- Tifa L7

Turks ------------------------------- Tifa L7

Proud Clod ------------------------ Tifa L7

Hojo -------------------------------- Tifa L7

Jenova-SYNTHESIS -------------- Tifa L7

Sephiroth battles ---------------- Tifa L7


- Added by me (Optional) :

Midgar Zolom --------------------- Barret L6

Rapps - Barret L6 -> Soldiers - Tifa L7


A-Route - (Aerith must stay "dead" to the end of battles)

B-Route - (Same but Barret)

C-Route - (Same but Cloud)

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